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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah, what is this meme? Like I get Elon is a douche. But I mean where do people think deep brain simulation and things that help tons of people already come from? We even have implantable devices that can record seizures directly from the brain surface and generate electric impulses to disrupt them. Not to mention pacemakers, spinal cord stimulators, etc. All these things have quite a lot of regulatory hurdles before reaching market. Obviously want to make sure that framework stays strong so no dystopian nonsense down the line happens. Once we get to the level of consumer grade brainchips, then I'll start to worry.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Obviously want to make sure that framework stays strong so no dystopian nonsense down the line happens.

Ya, because that works with now with medicine...? I'm pretty sure legal frameworks are simply part of the dystopian plan.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

the dystopian plan

You should watch less tv, do less internet, and go outside a bit more

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Oh you must be one of those level 5 vegans.

See, I can spit stupid insults too.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Alright, we'll just rip the implants keeping patients seizure free out of their heads and tell everyone with Parkinson's sorry, brain implants have to be removed now, go back to being frozen. Saying we can't use a technology because someone might do something bad with it someday could apply to literally any technology.

Or are you proposing getting rid of legal frameworks and regulation of medications would improve them somehow? Just let big pharma go realky wild? Strengthen our regulatory frameworks by all means, stop regulatory capture and all that, but an unbridled free for all with big pharma allowed to do, sell, and say whatever it wants about its products sounds horrific. I think you're right to think the fda may have gotten a little too lenient with some approvals lately, but that's an argument for stengthening the regulations not getting rid of them.

But yeah Elon isn't allowed to sell this shit yet, and people have to elect to be involved in any trials. It's their choice. If he ever tries to sell it, he'll have to prove efficacy and safety. Without that regulatory framework he wouldn't need to do even that, could just immediately launch it and lie about the capabilities a la tesla auto pilot, duping and killing a bunch of people likely.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Even with consumer grade brain chips, the risk isn't a bit thing until there is a direct interface and even then it's a question of what it can interface with. And even then it's a matter of good design. Some hardware off switch would be a basic requirement, but also software firewalling would be a very basic requirement.

Interfaces, if done right, should not have to be a dystopian future, we won't become the Borg just bectof some implant somewhere

People should watch less tv.