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Linus Torvalds talks AI, Rust adoption, and why the Linux kernel is 'the only thing that matters' (www.zdnet.com)

submitted 3 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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In a wide-ranging conversation with Verizon open-source officer Dirk Hohndel, 'plodding engineer' Linus Torvalds discussed where Linux is today and where it may go tomorrow.

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As for the release numbers, Torvalds reminded everyone yet again, they mean nothing. Hohndel said, "You typically change the major number around 19 or 20, because you get bored." No, replied Torvalds, it's because, "when I can't count on my fingers and toes anymore it's time for another 'major' release."

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So, what should you do about the constant weekly flow of Linux security bug fixes? Greg Kroah-Hartman, the maintainer of the Linux stable kernel, thinks you should constantly update to the newest, most secure stable Linux kernel. Torvalds agrees but can see the case for sticking with older kernels and relying on less frequent security patch backports.

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Switching to a more modern topic, the introduction of the Rust language into Linux, Torvalds is disappointed that its adoption isn't going faster. "I was expecting updates to be faster, but part of the problem is that old-time kernel developers are used to C and don't know Rust. They're not exactly excited about having to learn a new language that is, in some respects, very different. So there's been some pushback on Rust."

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The pair then moved on to the hottest of modern tech topics: AI. While Torvalds is skeptical about the current AI hype, he is hopeful that AI tools could eventually aid in code review and bug detection.

In the meantime, though, Torvalds is happy about AI's side effects. For example, he said, "When AI came in, it was wonderful, because Nvidia got much more involved in the kernel. Nvidia went from being on my list of companies who are not good to my list of companies who are doing really good work."

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I wish rust integrated more nicely with gnu and guix.

[–] embed_me 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

In what way?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

You can't just run rustup or install the guix rust package because rust has its own standalone self-contained ecosystem which kinda clashes with the declarative nature of guix since it isn't built with integration with tools outside of the rust ecosystem in mind.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yeah tldr is "rust good", "ai overrated", "i only care about the kernel and won't answer your questions"

[–] [email protected] 39 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

How do you have 25 upvotes? Everything you wrote is wrong.

Linus said, that the rust infrastructure is not stable, is positive about AIs future and happy, that NVIDIA had to step up their open source game.

And even the interviewer mentioned, that the "I only care about the kernel" quote WILL be taken out of context.

And he answered even implied questions...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

What? If you read the post you'll see that he was sad the rust adoption wasn't going faster.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Yes, but he also commented that the rust infrastructure isn’t super stable.

The point is that that Linus responses were not as overtly simplified and predictable as lung suggested.