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A new lawsuit is claiming hackers have gained access to the personal information of "billions of individuals," including their Social Security numbers, current and past addresses and the names of siblings and parents — personal data that could allow fraudsters to infiltrate financial accounts or take out loans in their names

The allegation arose in a lawsuit filed earlier this month by Christopher Hofmann, a California resident who claims his identity theft protection service alerted him that his personal information had been leaked to the dark web by the "nationalpublicdata.com" breach. The lawsuit was earlier reported by Bloomberg Law.

The breach allegedly occurred around April 2024, with a hacker group called USDoD exfiltrating the unencrypted personal information of billions of individuals from a company called National Public Data (NPD), a background check company, according to the lawsuit. Earlier this month, a hacker leaked a version of the stolen NPD data for free on a hacking forum, tech site Bleeping Computer reported

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (22 children)

But how exactly does it work when applying for something like a credit card or going to a doctors office and filling out a form? Because here in the US those ask for SSN

[–] [email protected] 44 points 3 months ago (17 children)

They ask for SSN because there is no other form of national ID in the US (by design). SSNs were not introduced with this use in mind in fact they were explicitly meant to not be used this way, but society has slowly twisted it into a de facto national ID.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago (16 children)

what was meant to be used then?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Americans explicitly didn't want a national ID.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 months ago

We really are kinda fuckin dumb in the US. It's like we're equally deeply suspicious of our government but too dumb to understand how it works so we ends up with blind, ignorant cynicism

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

And yet we have multiple of them now. Drivers license, SSN, and if you/your parent are/were military, EDIPI/DoDID.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Military, sure, but driver's licenses are state-level, not federal. Health care has been using birthdate like a password (one that is largely publicly available) for way too long now. At least financial institutions can use account numbers and financial history and code words, but even all that isn't great.

It's a messy patchwork, but I think at the time of the creation of the SSA, the US may have still thought of itself as a land of second chances. IBM numbering Holocaust victims probably didn't help the idea of a national ID, nor did the victim narrative of groups like the NRA.

I'm not sure if it's possible not to have a national ID anymore, so denial of it just forces a terribly kludgy implementation from whatever is around.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago (4 children)

drivers licenses are state-level

Are they though, with RealID requirements for new licenses now?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

RealID is option there's no Federal mandate for it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Sure. As long as you don't need to

  • access any federal buildings
  • fly domestically
  • exist after May 7 2025
  • have a non-expired drivers license

Then it's optional. Non-RealID isn't offered anymore in Ohio as far as I'm aware, I'd imagine other states are the same.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

My state still offers non-RealID compliant licenses. And the down side isn't all federal buildings only certain ones plus domestic flights. But a passport will also work for those if you don't have one.

https://www.dhs.gov/real-id/real-id-faqs

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Hmm, that's a good point. Washington finally relented, they were a hold-out for a long time.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

My number did not change after Real ID. I guess it could work if you added the state postal code to it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I think there should be an amendment allowing the creation of a Unique Population Registry Key that uses numeric and alphabetic characters.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Everyone should also get a procedurally-generated theme song.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

I'm cool with this as long as I can reserve Thunderstruck by AC/DC.

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