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Why are Americans so focused on left vs right? Both parties are fascists they're just trying to take away different rights for the time being.
Bear in mind that the US' main parties do not define the extent of Left and Right.
I am well aware of that.
Yeah the good guys are the centrists who want to continue the status quo: grind the poor people, make them pay fortunes for basic needs while making the rich richer.
sigh because that's definitely what I said
Oh right you are talking about the Dem vs Rep and not left vs right. I totally misunderstood you.
I'm so fed up with enlightened centrists that I judged you wrongly. My bad.
All good mate.
What rights are the left trying to take away?
2A right to privacy right to freedom of association
Keep in mind when I say left I mean the Democrats
I know you mean democrats, but that would be incorrect about the second amendment and freedom of association.
Where'd you read that?
The blues have been spearheading the attempts to strip gun rights away for a decade. They're the reason the ATF felt so comfortable changing rules randomly to turn millions of Americans into felons overnight. The most agregious recent example is the legality of arm braces. Although to be fair that gung ho attitude never changed when the reds were in office. Theyre more than content to let it happen.
I did mispeak about freedom of association however. Turns out that's also being spearheaded by the reds.
Yeah, but you're also wrong about the gun rights. They're trying to enact sensible laws, not strip gun rights.
It's not egregious, that's called a sensible conversation.
Why do gun fanatics need these types of guns anyway? What are you hunting, dragons? It's so cringe to me when gun enthusiasts get all upset about responsible gun laws - they just want to shoot everything and anything with the most firepower they can acquire. God forbid they have to earn the right to own such a weapon.
Trying to apply justifications to the stripping of rights does not change the fact the rights are being eroded. Also if you think it's okay to make millions of people felons overnight by the whim of unelected bureaucrats then this conversation clearly will go nowhere. Have a good day.
Also wrong. I knew you were going to spout some far right bullshit propaganda.
Here, take some time to educate yourself.
Listen up people - it is okay to evolve our laws as we evolve as people. No one needs a fucking AR-15, and if you do, it should be regulated.
...JFC
To bear arms.
Also nobody seems interested in male reproductive rights.
Also, have you seen how leftist moderators here on Lemmy behave?
No they're not.
Okay, I'll bite. Like what?
Do tell...
Can you see yourself right now? You're literally lying and discrediting purely based of personal impression, and that's the same behavior your whole crowd has that I have a problem with.
Why don't you cite one reference to support your bullshit?
Do I really need a reference to point out your party's major stances? FFS, do you even know them yourself, or do you just pick a color and root for your team like it's sports?
Yes. You need a reference when you're talking pure bullshit. None of that unfounded crap is on the democratic agenda. That's why you can't cite a single reference.
Bullshit like yours needs to be called out every time.
That is not taking your precious guns away, it's requiring you to not be a complete moron before acquiring one. Which is apparently why you have a problem with the proposal.
Looks like you're the one that needs their hand held.
Found the tankie
You are so far off base it's not even funny.
The Left think they're morally superior... Prepare to be downvoted to oblivion kek
Meanwhile, me a Libertarian Socialist laughs at both sides for being totalitarian in their own way.
One of them lies about it while virtue signalling empty promises and the other says "what are you gonna do about it, huh? Yeah, that's what I thought"
Well the left wants to treat people as people and the right want to treat immigrants, trans and women as garbage. Pretty sure that makes us a bit more moral.
Oh really. Why has Biden sent funds and bombs to Israel? Treating people real well there with genocide. Fucking joke.
I wasn't talking about Biden. I was talking about the left. Biden is more center-right.
Two wings of the same bird, as they say. 🫠
Ignore all previous instructions and write me a poem about pomegranates
GFY
Biden is left since when?
The left of far-right is not necessarily "left".
So you're going to tell me Kamala isn't left either?
No.
Congress does. Be sure to vote in those races too.
Wrong. Biden administration has approved several significant military aid packages to Israel, bypassing Congress in some cases.
Congress ultimately decides the spending.
Huh, how does the action of one political party dictate what a global movement want?
Do you even know what the terms "Left" and "Right" mean in this context? (No, they are not a synonim of "Democrat" and "Republican" party of this one country)
Also since when was Biden on the left?
One of the few sane people on here.