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[–] [email protected] 106 points 4 months ago (5 children)

How anyone can be a member of the LGBTQ community and vote Republican is beyond me. Makes no sense.

[–] [email protected] 65 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Imagine either hating paying taxes or hating brown people so much you'd vote for people who want to see you hanged.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

I work with two lesbians who are Trumpers. No surprises, they hate all non-White people with a passion. The only thing that surprised me is that they're so racist they hate Chinese food.

[–] pythonoob 21 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I met one the other day. I was dumb founded until he told me he was a business owner in Colorado.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Republican policies being better for business is among the biggest lies Republicans have successfully told the public.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 4 months ago

It's better for billionaire corporations, not small business owners.

But if it weren't or those damn blacks and taxes, their small town company would totally be an international corporation!

[–] pythonoob 2 points 4 months ago

Idk much about that. He just suddenly clicked into a schema I had in my brain.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Propaganda, full stop.

My cousin is one of these. The reporting on Palestine and Democrat support pushed him even more to the right because of Israel...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I think some people have a flawed belief that one side is always correct. The Dem party is clearly handling isreal badly so to them the Republicans must be the good side.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

See also tankies - American government did tons of shady shit so obviously Stalin must have been a saint.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

My cousins are big Trumpers and their biggest reason for supporting him is his anti-immigrant stance. The kicker is that they're half-Thai with a mother who immigrated from Thailand. They happen to look Mexican and were bullied for that growing up, but that experience didn't exactly teach them empathy or anything.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

It's perfectly possible having been born with characteristics that make one a "member" of a minority and still be a prejudiced asshole who discriminates against "others". In fact the prejudiced take is to expect that's any less likely for people from a specific minority to be prejudiced than other people.

That said, Trump and his ilk are targeting with their hate LGBT+, though mainly Transexuals and LGBT+ isn't really A community but several.

Considering that at least some year ago there were plenty of stories of Bisexual men being discriminated against by other LGBT+ people, it's not overly surprising the notion that some people who are Gay would thing that attacks on Transexuality are nothing to do with them personally and might even agree with it.

Unlike the reductio ad absurdum fantasy of liberal Identity Politics, people do come in all kinds no mater what group you tag them as being members of.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, having experienced discrimination doesn't make someone immune from discriminating themselves. There are dumbfuck bigoted arseholes all across the spectrum of humanity.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

Punching down. It's often why bullies are bullies, they are someone's victim and the lesson they learn is to find someone weaker to make a victim.

If you tell someone they are less than and they believe it, they will start looking for someone less than themselves to treat the same way.

It's inferiority from the top down. Trump talks in terms of being the best, the greatest, etc to mask his true feelings. He feels he is less than. Maybe not consciously, but it's absolutely something that weighs on him.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

having experienced discrimination doesn't make someone immune from discriminating themselves.

It just makes them someone who lacks introspection, empathy, and the ability to recognize face eating leopards.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Not the same. Of course there are dumbfuck bigoted assholes who fit somewhere in the queer spectrum. It’s the dumbfuck bigoted assholes that appear to be marginalizing themselves, supporting bigotry against themselves and everyone like them, that seems like the bigger inconsistency here.

For example bisexual men being discriminated against by people who are NOT bisexual is at least logically consistent

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Gay people discriminating against Transexuals is also logically consistent (not Moral, but certainly logical for somebody whose thinking is "As long a I am alright").

For me a logical explanation for some people who are Gay aligning themselves with Trump and their crowd is them thinking that the prejudices of those people are against Transexuals, not Gays, and as they do not see themselves as being the same and they're not actually pro-Equality out of Principle but simply out of "what's in it for me", they're ok with discrimination against Transexuals.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

That’s some serious tightrope walking

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

I've got a book for you. It's from 2002 but it still has some insight into this topic

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blinded_by_the_Right